It can be hard for young tulpas to be active for long periods of time esspically if their doing something their not used to yet like talking for the first time give her some time she might just be tired
I went into a state of "mindfullness" which is a practice in meditation. I asked some simple questions. Got a few answers. It wasnt too difficult. Look up mindfullness in meditation. Hope it works!
Any ideas on how I might be able to disconnect from the body’s sense when we switch? I’m able to move to the back so my movements affect a proxy body in the wonderland and have no affect on the real body but I can’t detach myself from the body’s senses making it really hard to see the wonderland when she opens the body’s eyes
At the very least, there isn't a need to in order to successfully switch.
3:50 AM
if you want to imagine the wonderland, you certainly can - however, you will still have the body's senses. Perhaps she could stop paying attention to you and act on her own, letting you be inactive. That way you can pretend to have had wonderland adventures after you become active again, the way many people and tulpas do.
I found it kinda weird when I accidentally walked backwards into a table I couldn’t see cause the body’s sight was blocking out everything in the wonderland
The dissociation I felt was more like I wasn’t in the body as a whole but only the head but I could still feel the body’s senses when she looked around or touched something
Blocking out the body's senses is not sensing what the body is at all. Dissociation is no longer associating with the body's senses - as in, you can receive that input but it is simultaneously "not yours".
Yeah it’s kinda like feeling what the body touches or sees or whatever but feeling like you’re not the one looking around or touching stuff and it feels like it’s almost second hand stimulus
4:02 AM
Like seeing what someone else is describing but it’s more vivid also no one is actually describing it
4:02 AM
But it feels like you’re seeing it without feeling like you’ve really seen it
There is definitely a selection bias towards more mental illness/dysfunction when it comes to a community whose premise involves the generation of an alternate personality (as the least of the claims: this is where it starts here)
Not being versed in the norms of tulpamancy, they could just see that as ongoing imagination exploration of characters they make. Being versed in tulpamancy, and making any deal whatsoever out of "killing" them instead of just never thinking of them again, means they've probably got some issues with invasive thoughts as we call them, but when fully accepted with no resistance manifest moreso as, well, senseless actions like that.
1:21 AM
The sort of drama younger systems/hosts tend to subconsciously create, ourselves once included.(edited)
What do you guys know about headmates and sleep? We know that in true plurals, if whether the body’s engaged or not, one or more systemmates can be active, though the body can not be engaged while nobody’s conscious. How different would it be for medians or many tulpas who are dependent on their hosts?
I have some doubts that even someone who is "true" plural that they can have tulpa that are active while they sleep, beyond something like lucid dreaming
no matter what kind of system it is, the body will need sleep and during (at least some stages of) that sleep absolutely no one in the system will be conscious
That would be consistent with current understanding of how the brain functions - though there are certainly anecdotes to the contrary, I don't believe there has actually been demonstration of such anecdotes being literally accurate.
3:00 AM
What is far more likely is another known phenomenon - generation of 'memories' based on expectation rather than what actually happened.
3:01 AM
I strongly suspect that this is the explanation for people's similar anecdotes of a tulpa and/or host remaining active and having 'wonderland adventures' while they are out of mind of the fronting consciousness.
3:02 AM
In other words, while the host/tulpa fronting is not thinking about or paying any attention whatsoever to the other host/tulpa in question, that other host/tulpa may claim to be active in the 'wonderland', but such activity is more likely false memories generated after they come back, based on expectation that they will be active in the 'wonderland'.
There have been demonstrations of meditative practices as well as lucid dreaming studies that show that although sleep is a process that affects the entirety of the body and brain including consciousness, awareness itself can be maintained through all sleep stages.
3:04 AM
Not everything is the brain's compensation for contradictory information allowing for filling in blanks through predictive memory .-.
